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Radical collaboration and breaking data silos can free trapped industrial value, says Caspar Herzberg, improving efficiency across global supply chains....
Apple SpotifyCaspar Herzberg, CEO of industrial software company AVEVA, argues that breaking down data silos across companies and sectors could benefit all stakeholders through what he calls “radical collaboration.”
Herzberg details the increasing complexity of the industrial world, where thousands of systems across supply chains have locked-in value because they don’t communicate. He argues that to decomplexify and unlock this value, industries need radical collaboration—overcoming the fear of sharing data to realize a significantly bigger collective prize.
Ultimately, Herzberg says that he is a pragmatist regarding AI’s societal impact, noting that the augmentation of the worker will be hugely productivity-enhancing. But he cautions that we must collectively establish boundaries on its use, as AI serves humankind.

CEO, AVEVA
Caspar Herzberg is CEO of industrial-software company AVEVA, a member of the Schneider Electric Executive Committee. He joined AVEVA in 2021, first as Chief Revenue Officer, then Chief Operating Officer, before being appointed CEO in March 2023.
With more than 25 years of global experience in software and industrial sectors — including senior roles at Cisco and consultancy firm Accenture, Herzberg brings deep expertise in digital transformation, smart cities, IoT, and industrial sustainability.
He holds a BA in Arabic & Modern Middle Eastern Studies from the University of Oxford and an MSc in International Politics from SOAS University of London. Fluent in English, Arabic, French, and German, Herzberg is also the author of Smart Cities, Digital Nations and serves on advisory boards for global sustainability and urban-development initiatives.

Professor of Strategy and Digital
Michael R Wade is Professor of Strategy and Digital at IMD and Director of the Global Center for Digital and AI Transformation. He directs a number of open programs such as Leading Digital and AI Transformation, Digital Transformation for Boards, Leading Digital Execution, Digital Transformation Sprint, Digital Transformation in Practice, Business Creativity and Innovation Sprint. He has written 10 books, hundreds of articles, and hosted popular management podcasts including Mike & Amit Talk Tech. In 2021, he was inducted into the Swiss Digital Shapers Hall of Fame.

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