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Gideon Rachman on Trump, China, and Europe’s resilience – and why liberal democracy, though under pressure, still has a future....
Apple SpotifyAs Rachman puts it, “It’s hard to get past Donald Trump as the sort of biggest current disruptive force in international politics…because essentially he represents the United States turning on the global system that it helped to create after the Second World War.”
And yet, amid disruption and doubt, he remains cautiously hopeful: “Can liberal democracy survive? Yes — because in the end it’s an idea that’s almost impossible to kill.”
This conversation is a guide to understanding how politics, power, and leadership are being redefined before our eyes – and what to do about it.

Chief Foreign Affairs Commentator, Financial Times
Gideon Rachman is Chief Foreign Affairs Commentator at the Financial Times and one of the world’s most influential geopolitical commentators. As the Financial Times’ Chief Foreign Affairs Commentator and author of The Age of the Strongman, Easternization, and Zero-Sum World, he provides deep insight into how global politics and economics shape the world of business and leadership. Gideon also hosts the Rachman Review, a podcast that gives a chance to listen in on his reflective and often probing conversations with politicians, intellectuals and analysts around the globe.

President of IMD and Nestlé Professor of Strategy and Political Economy
David Bach is President of IMD and Nestlé Professor of Strategy and Political Economy. He assumed the Presidency of IMD on 1 September 2024. He is working to broaden and deepen IMD’s global impact through learning innovation, excellence in degree- and executive programs, and applied thought leadership. Recognized globally as an innovator in management education, Bach previously served as IMD’s Dean of Innovation and Programs.

Felix Zeltner is a journalist and entrepreneur. He is the founder of Remote Daily, a media company specialized in building live talk shows for organizations around the world. He hosts Wunderbar Together, the leading German-American podcast, and is the co-author of “Stadtnomaden” (2019) and “Hype” (2024). Zeltner holds a double-degree in journalism from Munich University LMU and German Journalism School, and has received several awards for his reporting (Arte, ARD, Der Spiegel). He lives in New York City with his family.

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